Comments on: Aware Saga: COOS and the curious case of disingenuous-seeming platitudes http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/2009/05/01/aware-coos-disingenuous-platitudes/ Singapore Cats: the Homeless, the Homeseeking, and the Homeslackers of the 2 kitty mojo robbing siblings who serve the CLAN Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:06:32 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: calsifer http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/2009/05/01/aware-coos-disingenuous-platitudes/#comment-42906 calsifer Tue, 19 May 2009 03:33:49 +0000 http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/?p=3238#comment-42906 Ruthann, First, I can only assume you are throwing in comments on homosexuality on this post as a distraction smokescreen against the questions any thinking person has over the implications of the COOS pastor Derek Hong's words in the pulpit and indeed the involvement of religion in this issue. I also note your use of the term "pro-family", a known christian right aka fundie <a href="http://mrsbudak.livejournal.com/559490.html" rel="nofollow">codeword</a> in your "right" and "moral" stand. Next: you claim you are against the idea that "I can be born with the wrong sex biologically", which I can only deduce as your view any person's claims of being homosexual as one of choice which means it is reversible, and therefore a lie. I refuse to buy claims without looking at the proof, for or against. So Ruthann, I am curious. Have you ever actually SPOKEN to these "homosexual friends" you claim to have? How can you claim "I do not disriminate(sic) them in anyway and still respect them as individuals who have rights" when you are adamant a fundamental part of their being is an outright lie? Btw, unless science is wrong - the community that has brought about evolutionary improvements to people's lives, like medicine, vaccination, electricity, computers, and the internet - homosexuality DOES occur in nature. But hey, I'm not taking your untenable (and unsubstantiated) stance wholesale, so I don't expect you to take mine as it is too. But here's some articles off well-known and well-respected institutions in support of my support that homosexuality has biological roots: -The Medical News: <a href="http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx" rel="nofollow">1,500 animal species practice homosexuality</a> -National Geographic News: <a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html" rel="nofollow">Homosexual Activity Among Animals Stirs Debate</a> -World Science: <a href="http://www.world-science.net/othernews/061024_gay-animals.htm" rel="nofollow">A Wild and Gay Kingdom</a> -Wikipedia<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_animals" rel="nofollow">Homosexual Behaviour In Animals</a> -Scientifc America: <a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=bisexual-species" rel="nofollow">Bisexual Species: Unorthodox Sex in the Animal Kingdom Homosexual behavior is common in nature, and it plays an important role in survival</a> -New Scientist: <a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13674-evolution-myths-natural-selection-cannot-explain-homosexuality.html" rel="nofollow">Evolution myths: Natural selection cannot explain homosexuality</a> -MSNBC: <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15750604/" rel="nofollow">Gay animals out of the closet?</a> You can easily find more, either online or at your friendly neighbourhood national library branch. Ruthann,
First, I can only assume you are throwing in comments on homosexuality on this post as a distraction smokescreen against the questions any thinking person has over the implications of the COOS pastor Derek Hong’s words in the pulpit and indeed the involvement of religion in this issue. I also note your use of the term “pro-family”, a known christian right aka fundie codeword in your “right” and “moral” stand.

Next: you claim you are against the idea that “I can be born with the wrong sex biologically”, which I can only deduce as your view any person’s claims of being homosexual as one of choice which means it is reversible, and therefore a lie.

I refuse to buy claims without looking at the proof, for or against. So Ruthann, I am curious. Have you ever actually SPOKEN to these “homosexual friends” you claim to have? How can you claim “I do not disriminate(sic) them in anyway and still respect them as individuals who have rights” when you are adamant a fundamental part of their being is an outright lie?

Btw, unless science is wrong – the community that has brought about evolutionary improvements to people’s lives, like medicine, vaccination, electricity, computers, and the internet – homosexuality DOES occur in nature. But hey, I’m not taking your untenable (and unsubstantiated) stance wholesale, so I don’t expect you to take mine as it is too. But here’s some articles off well-known and well-respected institutions in support of my support that homosexuality has biological roots:

-The Medical News: 1,500 animal species practice homosexuality
-National Geographic News: Homosexual Activity Among Animals Stirs Debate
-World Science: A Wild and Gay Kingdom
-WikipediaHomosexual Behaviour In Animals
-Scientifc America: Bisexual Species: Unorthodox Sex in the Animal Kingdom
Homosexual behavior is common in nature, and it plays an important role in survival
-New Scientist: Evolution myths: Natural selection cannot explain homosexuality
-MSNBC: Gay animals out of the closet?

You can easily find more, either online or at your friendly neighbourhood national library branch.

]]> By: ruthann http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/2009/05/01/aware-coos-disingenuous-platitudes/#comment-42887 ruthann Sat, 16 May 2009 14:08:01 +0000 http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/?p=3238#comment-42887 Hi, just want to share that although I do not have any homosexual friends, yet I do not disriminate them in anyway and still respect them as individuals who have rights. I do not have any probelms with having friends who are gays or lesbians. What I do have concerns is the acts of the homosexuals. It does affects the pro-family values of having a male and a female as father and mother of the family, and having children out of love relationship between husband and wife that is natural. It does make innocent children confused about their own sexuality and gender issue. If I am born a male, and I do not like myself as a male, I can just change my gender? If God does not intend for me to be born a male in the beginning, why would He make it confusing for me to be born a male with the male sexual organs and having more testosterones in my body and having XY chromosomes in my genes? It is just never natural for men or women to have sex with the same gender. God has created male and female with different sexual organs and set for us a marriage boundary where we can enjoy sex in a moral and natural way. He has make us all beautifully in His sight . I just want to say that I'm not against the homosexual as a person but I am against the idea that i can be born with the wrong sex biologically. Hi, just want to share that although I do not have any homosexual friends, yet I do not disriminate them in anyway and still respect them as individuals who have rights. I do not have any probelms with having friends who are gays or lesbians. What I do have concerns is the acts of the homosexuals. It does affects the pro-family values of having a male and a female as father and mother of the family, and having children out of love relationship between husband and wife that is natural. It does make innocent children confused about their own sexuality and gender issue. If I am born a male, and I do not like myself as a male, I can just change my gender? If God does not intend for me to be born a male in the beginning, why would He make it confusing for me to be born a male with the male sexual organs and having more testosterones in my body and having XY chromosomes in my genes? It is just never natural for men or women to have sex with the same gender. God has created male and female with different sexual organs and set for us a marriage boundary where we can enjoy sex in a moral and natural way. He has make us all beautifully in His sight . I just want to say that I’m not against the homosexual as a person but I am against the idea that i can be born with the wrong sex biologically.

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