Comments on: Hey, what’s that in my food dish?? http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com Singapore Cats: the Homeless, the Homeseeking, and the Homeslackers of the 2 kitty mojo robbing siblings who serve the CLAN Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:06:32 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: calsifer http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/tlc/hey-what%e2%80%99s-that-in-my-food-dish/#comment-43172 calsifer Mon, 08 Jun 2009 13:17:55 +0000 http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/tlc/hey-what’s-that-in-my-food-dish/#comment-43172 Hi Basha, Sorry, I have no experience with this brand. But you should be able to get some info by checking out its contents, googling and reading up the references listed here. Hi Basha,
Sorry, I have no experience with this brand. But you should be able to get some info by checking out its contents, googling and reading up the references listed here.

]]> By: Basha http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/tlc/hey-what%e2%80%99s-that-in-my-food-dish/#comment-43148 Basha Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:53:48 +0000 http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/tlc/hey-what’s-that-in-my-food-dish/#comment-43148 I adopted eight month old kittens from Rescue House. They were on Nutro,and both were over weight. I switched them over to Blue Spa Select, no-more sensitive tummy's. I have not seen any comments about this brand. What can you tell me about it? Thank you, Basha I adopted eight month old kittens from Rescue House. They were on Nutro,and both were over weight. I switched them over to Blue Spa Select, no-more sensitive tummy’s. I have not seen any comments about this brand. What can you tell me about it? Thank you, Basha

]]> By: Sharon http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/tlc/hey-what%e2%80%99s-that-in-my-food-dish/#comment-41963 Sharon Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:56:37 +0000 http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/tlc/hey-what’s-that-in-my-food-dish/#comment-41963 My vet has been insisting that I keep my cats on Royal Canin SO Urinary but I notice here that indicates it's a decent brand. I've been wondering because one of the things Royal Canin advertises is the fact that there is no by-products used but by-products are listed right on the package. I asked my vet about this and she said the rep from the company had given them a long speech about "good" by-products and "bad" by-products and Royal Canin only had the "good" by-products. Does this sound like a load of bull to you as it does to me? I'm much more inclined to go with Natural Balance myself but I'd like to give my vet a good arguement against Royal Canin. Can you give me some ammo? Thank you! Sharon My vet has been insisting that I keep my cats on Royal Canin SO Urinary but I notice here that indicates it’s a decent brand. I’ve been wondering because one of the things Royal Canin advertises is the fact that there is no by-products used but by-products are listed right on the package. I asked my vet about this and she said the rep from the company had given them a long speech about “good” by-products and “bad” by-products and Royal Canin only had the “good” by-products. Does this sound like a load of bull to you as it does to me? I’m much more inclined to go with Natural Balance myself but I’d like to give my vet a good arguement against Royal Canin. Can you give me some ammo?

Thank you!

Sharon

]]> By: Area2: Jerry Geriatric « Tipped Ear Clan http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/tlc/hey-what%e2%80%99s-that-in-my-food-dish/#comment-41699 Area2: Jerry Geriatric « Tipped Ear Clan Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:12:44 +0000 http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/tlc/hey-what’s-that-in-my-food-dish/#comment-41699 [...] will continue to feed him better food, if only to give him some measure of nutrition against the supermarket brands he’s being fed [...] [...] will continue to feed him better food, if only to give him some measure of nutrition against the supermarket brands he’s being fed [...]

]]> By: calsifer http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/tlc/hey-what%e2%80%99s-that-in-my-food-dish/#comment-40531 calsifer Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:03:08 +0000 http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/tlc/hey-what’s-that-in-my-food-dish/#comment-40531 Narcisa, Thanks for that. I hoped people would make the effort to find that out for themselves and most importantly, take the care to read the ingredients list of ANY formula when making decisions. (to any who wonders how to do this: all refs IN THE POST, do read) btw, Narcisa, where do you get your supplies? Narcisa,
Thanks for that. I hoped people would make the effort to find that out for themselves and most importantly, take the care to read the ingredients list of ANY formula when making decisions. (to any who wonders how to do this: all refs IN THE POST, do read)

btw, Narcisa, where do you get your supplies?

]]> By: Narcisa http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/tlc/hey-what%e2%80%99s-that-in-my-food-dish/#comment-40530 Narcisa Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:26:42 +0000 http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/tlc/hey-what’s-that-in-my-food-dish/#comment-40530 FYI - AZMIRA INGREDIENTS LIST: Ingredients: Poultry Meal, Whole Ground Yellow Corn, Full Fat Soybeans, Ground Whole Wheat, Whole Brown Rice, Poultry Fat preserved with natural mixed tocopherols, Citric Acid, Rosemary Extract, and Ascorbyl Palmitate (a Vitamin C ester), Oatmeal, Whole Dried Egg, Menhaden Fish Meal, Natural Flavors, Flax Seed, Phosphoric Acid, Monosodium Phosphate, Calcium Carbonate, Choline Chloride, Dried Kelp, Taurine, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Vitamin Supplements (E, A, B2, B12, D3), Niacin, Calcium Ascorbate, Calcium Pantothenate, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Inositol, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of Vitamin K activity), Folic Acid, Biotin, Zinc Proteinate, Zinc Oxide, Ferrous Fulfate, Iron Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Proteinate, Cobalt Proteinate, Potassium Iodide, Sodium Selenite. FYI – AZMIRA INGREDIENTS LIST:

Ingredients: Poultry Meal, Whole Ground Yellow Corn, Full Fat Soybeans, Ground Whole Wheat, Whole Brown Rice, Poultry Fat preserved with natural mixed tocopherols, Citric Acid, Rosemary Extract, and Ascorbyl Palmitate (a Vitamin C ester), Oatmeal, Whole Dried Egg, Menhaden Fish Meal, Natural Flavors, Flax Seed, Phosphoric Acid, Monosodium Phosphate, Calcium Carbonate, Choline Chloride, Dried Kelp, Taurine, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Vitamin Supplements (E, A, B2, B12, D3), Niacin, Calcium Ascorbate, Calcium Pantothenate, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Inositol, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of Vitamin K activity), Folic Acid, Biotin, Zinc Proteinate, Zinc Oxide, Ferrous Fulfate, Iron Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Proteinate, Cobalt Proteinate, Potassium Iodide, Sodium Selenite.

]]> By: calsifer http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/tlc/hey-what%e2%80%99s-that-in-my-food-dish/#comment-40400 calsifer Sun, 27 Jul 2008 01:23:26 +0000 http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/tlc/hey-what’s-that-in-my-food-dish/#comment-40400 Juli Sunuwar, Thank you for sharing. I will leave your comment for readers' consideration. Howerver I do want to add that from our experience, changing food may have that initial effect. Watch out for the long-term effect. Also, I would like to add this cautionary note to all considering a food change: Do take note that cat food changes should be introduced gradually to avoid runs and other digestive problems in your precious ones. The rule of thumb is a change over 10 days starting with 90% current and 10% new at 10% increments until 100% new on the tenth day. However, if your cat(s) show signs of tummy upsets, apply your judgment to either stop or adjust the changeover rate. Juli Sunuwar,
Thank you for sharing. I will leave your comment for readers’ consideration. Howerver I do want to add that from our experience, changing food may have that initial effect. Watch out for the long-term effect.

Also, I would like to add this cautionary note to all considering a food change: Do take note that cat food changes should be introduced gradually to avoid runs and other digestive problems in your precious ones.

The rule of thumb is a change over 10 days starting with 90% current and 10% new at 10% increments until 100% new on the tenth day. However, if your cat(s) show signs of tummy upsets, apply your judgment to either stop or adjust the changeover rate.

]]> By: Juli Sunuwar http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/tlc/hey-what%e2%80%99s-that-in-my-food-dish/#comment-40393 Juli Sunuwar Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:31:15 +0000 http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/tlc/hey-what’s-that-in-my-food-dish/#comment-40393 Please give AZMIRA, a superb holistic brand a try. My cats stop shedding after 3 days of being fed with AZMIRA! They are more affectionate and would compete each other for a place in my lap when I'm sitting in the living room. This never happened before! Costing about $90 for an (approx) 8kg bag, it is money worth spending on my 5 kitties and for delivering what it claims. Please give AZMIRA, a superb holistic brand a try.
My cats stop shedding after 3 days of being fed with AZMIRA!

They are more affectionate and would compete each other for a place in my lap when I’m sitting in the living room. This never happened before!

Costing about $90 for an (approx) 8kg bag, it is money worth spending on my 5 kitties and for delivering what it claims.

]]> By: calsifer http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/tlc/hey-what%e2%80%99s-that-in-my-food-dish/#comment-39221 calsifer Sun, 30 Mar 2008 01:06:26 +0000 http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/tlc/hey-what’s-that-in-my-food-dish/#comment-39221 Narcisa, Ah, I see. I get your point now - your original comment certainly seemed to present an impression of your stance as being "no veg" formulas only. About the statement: the caveat with that statement comes with the appeal to "Please consider". As I've said, my main aim is to provide the info and resources to help anyone who feeds cats, whether home pets or community cats, to get started on their research - we defintely can't be and don't aspire to be a one-stop resource. Before this statement were corresponding verbiage and a number of links which served to augment the message, which I had hoped the reader would have gone through while reading the post. That would have included the link on By-Products. As I've said, there is meal and there is meal. It is up to the indivudal to make the choice. (NB: i've been trying to find time to do a rewrite of this page anyway, will take this point you've raised into consideration... I'm under no delusion about due diligence from readers, despite my best hope otherwise) So, we both agree "reading the ingredients list and then weighing that against your budget." Yes, as you say: "Ultimately, as a consumer, you do also want to spend on meat instead of meal," but the caveat I see here is only informed and conscientious consumers would do so. Thanks for sharing, I will check out both brands - I've been looking at new foods from time and time, getting feedback and checking online so far, have not found anything that we prefer... on our budget. We have remained on NB for reasons ranging from user feedback (kitty doesn't like the food, it's too tough, kibbles too big), to what I group as ethical issues (eg there was a brand that was being mentioned very often for a while but turned out it is owned by Purina and advocates corn gluten... which we can't square with, think Iams ans SD and Eukanuba) Anyway, for ref, our cats, both home and community, love NB... esp the duck flavour. As for Royal Canin, as we've said in the post is a big NO-NO for us. THere ought to be a degree in the art (and science) of kitty palette satisfaction. Narcisa,
Ah, I see. I get your point now – your original comment certainly seemed to present an impression of your stance as being “no veg” formulas only.

About the statement: the caveat with that statement comes with the appeal to “Please consider”. As I’ve said, my main aim is to provide the info and resources to help anyone who feeds cats, whether home pets or community cats, to get started on their research – we defintely can’t be and don’t aspire to be a one-stop resource.

Before this statement were corresponding verbiage and a number of links which served to augment the message, which I had hoped the reader would have gone through while reading the post. That would have included the link on By-Products. As I’ve said, there is meal and there is meal. It is up to the indivudal to make the choice. (NB: i’ve been trying to find time to do a rewrite of this page anyway, will take this point you’ve raised into consideration… I’m under no delusion about due diligence from readers, despite my best hope otherwise)

So, we both agree “reading the ingredients list and then weighing that against your budget.” Yes, as you say: “Ultimately, as a consumer, you do also want to spend on meat instead of meal,” but the caveat I see here is only informed and conscientious consumers would do so.

Thanks for sharing, I will check out both brands – I’ve been looking at new foods from time and time, getting feedback and checking online so far, have not found anything that we prefer… on our budget. We have remained on NB for reasons ranging from user feedback (kitty doesn’t like the food, it’s too tough, kibbles too big), to what I group as ethical issues (eg there was a brand that was being mentioned very often for a while but turned out it is owned by Purina and advocates corn gluten… which we can’t square with, think Iams ans SD and Eukanuba)

Anyway, for ref, our cats, both home and community, love NB… esp the duck flavour. As for Royal Canin, as we’ve said in the post is a big NO-NO for us. THere ought to be a degree in the art (and science) of kitty palette satisfaction.

]]> By: Narcisa http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/tlc/hey-what%e2%80%99s-that-in-my-food-dish/#comment-39213 Narcisa Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:56:37 +0000 http://tippedearclan.wordpress.com/tlc/hey-what’s-that-in-my-food-dish/#comment-39213 Calsifer, There was no implication that you're peddling for Natural Balance - I was merely pointing out that the following statement is a glaring contradiction to what this page is advocating, ie. nutritious food for a healthy cat: "If the label of your pet food has the following, please consider changing immediately! Words such as “By-products,” “meat and/or bone meal,” “animal digest,” most other descriptions including “digest” or “meal,” and added sugars. " It is PRECISELY because your page is used as an information resource that the message should be consistent. For example, you could also state the benefits of a wet food diet, as carbs are used as a binding agent for dry foods. We're all trying to weigh the best pet food against a budget. It would be silly to assume that I was arguing for a completely balanced diet without any carbs/veggies in it (bearing in mind that veggies contain several important vitamins~). For the bang for my buck, I feed my cats Nutra Gold Finicky as it contains more salmon than the regular formula, with chicken (18%) and salmon (18%) as the first two ingredients, not meal or peas (imagine paying for peas!). I believe it is priced the same as NB (my cats did not like this - I think it's the aversion to duck?) and the other brands like Royal Canin. Wellness' Core formula also has two meat sources (deboned turkey and chicken) as main ingredients, followed by chicken meal and whitefish meal. As you plainly stated, it is about reading the ingredients list and then weighing that against your budget. Ultimately, as a consumer, you do also want to spend on meat instead of meal. As for the transition to Nutra Gold, it was made easier with the Finicky formula, and the community cats love it too. I know they choose this over ProPlan and Whiskers, which other feeders leave out for them. Good luck. Calsifer,
There was no implication that you’re peddling for Natural Balance – I was merely pointing out that the following statement is a glaring contradiction to what this page is advocating, ie. nutritious food for a healthy cat: “If the label of your pet food has the following, please consider changing immediately!
Words such as “By-products,” “meat and/or bone meal,” “animal digest,” most other descriptions including “digest” or “meal,” and added sugars. ”

It is PRECISELY because your page is used as an information resource that the message should be consistent. For example, you could also state the benefits of a wet food diet, as carbs are used as a binding agent for dry foods.

We’re all trying to weigh the best pet food against a budget. It would be silly to assume that I was arguing for a completely balanced diet without any carbs/veggies in it (bearing in mind that veggies contain several important vitamins~). For the bang for my buck, I feed my cats Nutra Gold Finicky as it contains more salmon than the regular formula, with chicken (18%) and salmon (18%) as the first two ingredients, not meal or peas (imagine paying for peas!). I believe it is priced the same as NB (my cats did not like this – I think it’s the aversion to duck?) and the other brands like Royal Canin. Wellness’ Core formula also has two meat sources (deboned turkey and chicken) as main ingredients, followed by chicken meal and whitefish meal. As you plainly stated, it is about reading the ingredients list and then weighing that against your budget. Ultimately, as a consumer, you do also want to spend on meat instead of meal.

As for the transition to Nutra Gold, it was made easier with the Finicky formula, and the community cats love it too. I know they choose this over ProPlan and Whiskers, which other feeders leave out for them.

Good luck.

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